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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 2:57am Post subject: 50nl bottom set against very strong reg play
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Two Pair
Joined: 17 Jan 2009
Posts: 35
WPP: 56
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About twenty hands into the table, with no significant out of line actions on any side. I'm running very true to my standard ABC 14/11/3 style. (Was on doom run, so converted back to ABC and dropped stakes)
UTG+1, 14/8/3 is a positionally aware, tight, ABC style reg over 1800 hands this is his second flop check raise.
MP2, 10/6 over 400 hands. Nitty like he ain't got manners
CO is a 2 hand unknown.
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saw flop
Hero (MP1) ($50)
MP2 ($74.45)
CO ($22.05)
Button ($11.55)
SB ($12.75)
BB ($88.60)
UTG ($48)
UTG+1 ($52.25)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 3 , 3
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, MP2 calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75, 3 folds
Flop: ($7.75) 6, 9, 3 (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $5.50, MP2 calls $5.50, 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $18, Hero ??? |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 3:36am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 05 Jan 2009
Posts: 2202
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Location: sigh..nit ring
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| I typically throw up and punch something before making this FOLD |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 3:37am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 05 Jan 2009
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Location: sigh..nit ring
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 11:28am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 01 Feb 2007
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Location: Gainesville
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| pre is terrible as played don't fold |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 11:39am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Location: Dublin
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| long time since i played FR if this is a fold pre |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 11:45am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Posts: 358
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pre is awful.you have 2 shorties behind you.
Well,its just a weird line for a ABC Tagg player to c/r with TT+.nevertheless,im not folding.
Was his 1st flop c/r multiway as well? |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 3:14pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Posts: 3060
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Location: Spewing
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| Micro2Macro wrote: | | I typically throw up and punch something before making this FOLD |
| Micro2Macro wrote: | | I'd fold pre also |
qft |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 5:25pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 05 Jan 2009
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Location: sigh..nit ring
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Well I think it depends on the table, but typically I'm folding this pre. Unless it was a bunch of passive fish. Given the stack sizes your table looks pretty fishy, so perhaps calling is fine. But take into consideration how often a shorty is going to squeeze and make you fold. If the table was full of decent regulars I'd fold too, but maybe that's a bit tight for 50nl. I'd rather wait till I'm in a later position to set hunt to minimize risk of being squeezed and also with a better chance of having position in the hand, it'll be easier to steal postflop in most cases.
Perhaps anyone who disagrees should filter out pairs 22-55 say from UTG+1 to MP1 or 2 facing an UTG to UTG+1/MP1 raise and see how profitable they are overall. I don't have a large enough DB right now to gain anything from this but it would be interesting to see someone elses results. |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 11:59pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Posts: 821
WPP: 73
Location: wisconsin
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I dont think you can get away from this one. Push. Could still be an overpair that was played as if he knew someone would behind would take a stab at the dry pot.
I'm old school as well Da Goat and it looks like you have implied odd's to call pre. Make sets/get paid used to be the motto back in my day (05/06) so this is a bread and butter hand. |
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