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Posted: Wed, 31 Dec 2008, 9:48pm Post subject: 50l 6max 3 tough hands
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Straight
Joined: 06 May 2008
Posts: 233
WPP: 139
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First 2 hands are against same villain. No read for the first one.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP ($55.55)
CO ($66.25)
Button ($26.70)
SB ($50.05)
BB ($92.65)
Hero (UTG) ($49.05)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A , A
Hero raises to $1.75, MP calls $1.75, 3 folds, BB calls $1.25
Flop: ($5.50) 3 , 4, K (3 players)
BB bets $4, Hero raises to $11, 1 fold, BB raises to $90.90 (All-In) Hero??
What is my calling range here, and does it change if I have the A?
2nd hand is vs same villain he has played fairly tagg since hand 1. He a good bit of his time bank before he shoved (should this effect my decision?).
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($11.65)
MP ($56)
CO ($52.60)
Button ($48.90)
SB ($64.35)
Hero (BB) ($91.10)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q
2 folds, CO raises to $1, 1 fold, SB raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, SB raises to $64.35 (All-In) Hero??
Also what is my calling range here?
This hand is vs 2 villains that seem donkish. Can I value bet this river, and if so how much?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP ($49.50)
CO ($50)
Hero (Button) ($73.30)
SB ($25.25)
BB ($26.05)
UTG ($26.10)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 9, 9
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5.75, 2 folds, UTG calls $5.25, CO calls $4.25
Flop: ($18) Q, 4, Q (3 players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($18) Q (3 players)
UTG bets $4, CO calls $4, Hero calls $4
River: ($30) 7 (3 players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero?? |
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Posted: Wed, 31 Dec 2008, 11:51pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 09 Aug 2005
Posts: 1829
WPP: 67
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I think I call both of the first two and I check behind the last.
That guy's retarded. |
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Posted: Thu, 01 Jan 2009, 3:57am Post subject:
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Strike 3
Joined: 05 Jan 2005
Posts: 5869
WPP: 52
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What's his range in hand 1? Since you raised UTG, AK is in his range, but AA and KK are discounted. A lot of people flat AK.
33 and 44 totally make sense because they want to get it in on drawy boards since a heart would kill the action even if it doesn't benefit you
although donking is pretty gay with a strong hand, especially on this board
nut flush draw would make sense because he thinks he has fold equity and he might think that the ace could be an out sometimes
so actually I call hand 1 because I beat AK and I've seen people stack off with TPTK plenty
I don't call with AK there because it's that much less likely that he also has AK, more likely that he has 33/44
unless I have  
in hand 2 I bet $14 on the river
any full house calls because people don't fold full houses |
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Posted: Thu, 01 Jan 2009, 7:33am Post subject:
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{NSFW - nipple}
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 2186
WPP: 107
Location: The Loser's Lounge
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| i call all these or because what the poop easy win! and i thingk it;s aweome how the tgrannny guy akways uses the card ciiosn in his oists! hahahahaha! |
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Posted: Thu, 01 Jan 2009, 8:53am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 1340
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Location: Deventer
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Calling hand 1 and 2.
Hand 3 I would probably never play this like this. I'd like to hear your thoughts about the preflop 3bet and villains ranges on the flop and why you wouldn't bet/raise somewhere and want to do on the river....and such. |
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Posted: Thu, 01 Jan 2009, 12:06pm Post subject:
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midstakes donk
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
Posts: 2979
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Location: flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
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1 has to be an easy snap
2-3 are badly misplayed preflop |
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Posted: Thu, 01 Jan 2009, 2:07pm Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 06 May 2008
Posts: 233
WPP: 139
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| minSim wrote: | | Hand 3 I would probably never play this like this. I'd like to hear your thoughts about the preflop 3bet and villains ranges on the flop and why you wouldn't bet/raise somewhere and want to do on the river....and such. |
I am still new to cash games so I guess from the responses 3betting pre in this spot is incorrect? I was hoping to isolate vs raiser since UTG limper is a donk who likely would call behind with a lot of trash but would not call the 3bet. Anyhow, on the flop I think donk has lots of Ax, broadway, and pairs in his range. CO probably has more pairs like 44-JJ, AQ, AK. I did not feel comfortable betting this flop 3 way is that wrong? Once the turn came I felt a lot more confident I had the best hand and only really worried about TT-JJ from the CO (although he could still have AQ with that line). On the river I think if one of them had a better hand than me they would have value bet, and at the same time I might have gotten paid off by the donk w/Ace high (he was that bad) and the CO might not fold some of his mid pairs. Feel free to provide me a better line with rationale, thanks. |
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Posted: Thu, 01 Jan 2009, 2:10pm Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 06 May 2008
Posts: 233
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| nutsinho wrote: | | 2-3 are badly misplayed preflop |
Can you elaborate on this a bit? I am guessing that you are referring to my 3bet sizing in hand 2, and you flat hand 3. |
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Posted: Thu, 01 Jan 2009, 2:31pm Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
Posts: 213
WPP: 132
Location: count-n mah monies stewie-style
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| nutsinho wrote: |
2-3 are badly misplayed preflop |
elaborate?
are you advocating a call instead of a reraise, or just smaller reraises? |
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Posted: Thu, 01 Jan 2009, 2:49pm Post subject:
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midstakes donk
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
Posts: 2979
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Location: flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
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hand 2 should probably be a call preflop. if you 3bet it shouldnt be to more than 10$. and when you make this huge 3bet you shouldnt expect him to flat it so you should already have a concrete plan facing a shove.
hand 3 should mostly be a call preflop, but if you do 3bet, it should be smaller again. large 3bets are mostly for when you are out of position and against multiple opponents. when you are in position you generally want to be raising 3-3.3x with your range vs one opponent. ( i realize that there are 2 opponents in each hand but since the action is call +raise and minraise +reraise, the first opponent will be facing two raises cold with a weak range and therefore has a negligible effect on your betsizing.) |
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Posted: Thu, 01 Jan 2009, 6:06pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 09 Aug 2005
Posts: 1829
WPP: 67
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| UTG in Hand 3 sucks hard. |
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