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Posted: Mon, 31 Dec 2007, 7:27pm Post subject: 5/10 pounds, obvious value bet.. facing push
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 3246
WPP: 87
Location: Toronto'ish
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-No reads on villain, only have 40ish hands on him
-he's running 38/38/4 over that small sample size
-Is river value bet ok even though my hand is faceup?
-easy fold on river, even though my hand is obvious?
CryptoLogic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
4 players
Converter
Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with  
2 folds, SB raises to $40, Hero calls.
Flop:    ($80, 2 players)
SB bets $67, Hero calls.
Turn:  ($214, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.
River:  ($214, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $106, SB raises all-in $883, Hero ?? |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Dec 2007, 11:17pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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Your hand isn't face up.
I definetely bet the river, i bet the turn sometimes too.
River... bleh his raise makes no sense and your hand is obvious, idk im such a fish to unknown's overbet bluffing i call. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Jan 2008, 8:24pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
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Location: trying to live
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| i would call i guess but i never get into these situations because i never bet like a girl |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Jan 2008, 8:38pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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I'm sorry my first post may have been a bit confusing.
When you bet the river i don't think he exclusively will put you on Ax, but i do think your range is very weak. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Jan 2008, 9:06pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 16 Sep 2005
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| I agree with ISF that our range is weak, but doesn't that make an allin overbet less likely to be a bluff? From his point of view he probably only needs to make a fairly small raise or bet out to push us of our Ax/Kx/Flush draw doesn't he? The fact hes shoving for probably twice as much as he needs to, to get the job done Vs most of our range makes me think its more likely to be a value shove. He also has pretty donkish stats so its not unlikely he slowplayed something and then made an "oh shit i missed value" shove. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Jan 2008, 10:36pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Posts: 2007
WPP: 55
Location: Dizzy
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| gabe wrote: | | i would call i guess but i never get into these situations because i never bet like a girl | |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Jan 2008, 11:11pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| sauce123 wrote: | | gabe wrote: | | i would call i guess but i never get into these situations because i never bet like a girl | |
Ok I expected people to comment on the bet size. I think I'd still be just as confused had I bet $180 instead of like $110ish.
And if we think a smaller bet would be called by a wider range of worse hands AND induce bluffs, I can't see how "betting like a girl" is necessarily bad?
I'm finding it hard to put him on a range here though, that would check the turn and c/r the river. |
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Posted: Sat, 05 Jan 2008, 4:49pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Posts: 2007
WPP: 55
Location: Dizzy
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| griffey24 wrote: | | sauce123 wrote: | | gabe wrote: | | i would call i guess but i never get into these situations because i never bet like a girl | |
Ok I expected people to comment on the bet size. I think I'd still be just as confused had I bet $180 instead of like $110ish.
And if we think a smaller bet would be called by a wider range of worse hands AND induce bluffs, I can't see how "betting like a girl" is necessarily bad?
I'm finding it hard to put him on a range here though, that would check the turn and c/r the river. |
every post ive made in the past 2 weeks has been under the influence of cheap tequila
as mod i felt i had the right to quote gabe´s post as its likely his was made on cheap whiskey. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jan 2008, 10:23am Post subject:
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| I would fold and wait for a better spot with this donkey. |
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