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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Sat, 19 Jan 2008, 12:36pm    Post subject: 5/10 20 Buck Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

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Honestly I don't know much about 20 buck besides that i hear he is insane. We have played together a little bit. My image is pretty straightforward and relatively tight preflop. 20 Buck has been threebetting me a lot pre.

PokerStars Game #14668440927: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/01/19 - 11:27:28 (ET)
Table 'Vindobona IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: toprope98 ($1059.75 in chips)
Seat 2: heybude ($990 in chips)
Seat 3: 20 Buck Spin ($970 in chips)
Seat 5: nemuii ($1573.50 in chips)
Seat 6: pacopil ($330 in chips)
heybude: posts small blind $5
20 Buck Spin: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to heybude [9h 9s]
nemuii: folds
pacopil: folds
toprope98: folds
heybude: raises $20 to $30
20 Buck Spin: calls $20
*** FLOP *** [Qd Qh 2c]
heybude: bets $40
20 Buck Spin: raises $80 to $120
heybude: calls $80
*** TURN *** [Qd Qh 2c] [7c]
heybude: checks
20 Buck Spin: bets $220
heybude:

Both bets were pretty instant though he seems to act fast with all his moves.
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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Sat, 19 Jan 2008, 12:38pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

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Flop is very standard right? I mean im cbetting air a lot here obv.
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griffey24
Post Posted: Sat, 19 Jan 2008, 12:44pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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If I had a Q here I would often lead turn here for about 200, since if I had a strong Q here I wouldn't want to risk the turn checking through. So with 99 I prob do the same and lead the turn 200ish.

If he flat calls the turn lead, I likely c/c river, and if he raises I'll probably dump it.
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gabe
Post Posted: Sat, 19 Jan 2008, 1:33pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
EAT BUGS
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its so easy to bluff 2/3 pot bets on flops like that
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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Sat, 19 Jan 2008, 6:31pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

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gabe wrote:
its so easy to bluff 2/3 pot bets on flops like that


I'm interested on complete reasoning on this, as I don't grasp exactly why a smaller bet here is easier to bluff.
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sauce123
Post Posted: Sat, 19 Jan 2008, 10:10pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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i think is fine and u should fold turn
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wufwugy
Post Posted: Wed, 06 Feb 2008, 3:39am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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20 buck is probably good enough to realize that this board is not the kind to bluff, yet not good enough to know that you're thinking he may bluff it.
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Bmxicle
Post Posted: Wed, 06 Feb 2008, 5:23am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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ISF why do you alwasy get a boner over gabes posts?

As for the hand, i would normally fold the turn, but against a select few ops i would call, and if i do so i sure as hell am calling any non-ace river.
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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Wed, 06 Feb 2008, 1:00pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

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Bmxicle wrote:
ISF why do you alwasy get a boner over gabes posts?


I feel like gabe always gives me good advice and when he says something that doesn't make sense to me i ask a question.
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Bmxicle
Post Posted: Wed, 06 Feb 2008, 3:30pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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hehe sorry about that drunk post
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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Wed, 06 Feb 2008, 4:09pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

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Bmxicle wrote:
hehe sorry about that drunk post


lol its fine
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gabe
Post Posted: Thu, 07 Feb 2008, 3:54pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
EAT BUGS
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this hand is kinda like that marshall hand. its easy for him to bluff but you always feel stupid when he has it. i dont know, its close.
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Poker_jedi
Post Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 3:29pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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nice, apparently i have to post 10 times before i can send pms so forgive me...
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Poker_jedi
Post Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 3:30pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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two
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Poker_jedi
Post Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 3:30pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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three
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Poker_jedi
Post Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 3:31pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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four
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Post Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 3:31pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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five
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Post Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 3:31pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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six
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Post Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 3:31pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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seven
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Post Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 3:32pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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eight
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Poker_jedi
Post Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 3:32pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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nine
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Post Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 3:32pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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ten!
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Post Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 3:51pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Poker_jedi wrote:
nice, apparently i have to post 10 times before i can send pms so forgive me...


Ban plz
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Poker_jedi
Post Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 4:03pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I just signed on to the site. I was trying to get in touch with someone through a pm, but it said I needed 10 posts before pming. Didn't mean any harm through it. Sorry. Posts from now on will be valid.
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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 10:36pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

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If this is the same Poker_jedi who is a midstakes cash reg, 5/10 on FT, then cool.
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Poker_jedi
Post Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 11:05pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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IowaSkinsFan wrote:
If this is the same Poker_jedi who is a midstakes cash reg, 5/10 on FT, then cool.


No. This is Poker_jedi from Party Poker 4 years ago. I'm thinking of coming back to the internet poker scene.
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Ash256
Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 1:56pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Wtf.. isn't Poker_jedi ilikeaces?
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gabe
Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 2:04pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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poker jedi, didnt u crush 1/2 but then they opened big games and u ran bad? or something
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Poker_jedi
Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 8:22pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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gabe wrote:
poker jedi, didnt u crush 1/2 but then they opened big games and u ran bad? or something


Yep. That's me!! Thinking of coming back. Not 100% sure yet. Haven't played internet in a long time. I have many more responsibilities now, then I did back then. Not nearly as much time. Would probably be for like a couple of times/month or so.

To the above poster, I was Poker_jedi on PP from mid 2003 to early 2005. Then I left. Ilikeaces took the name pokerjedi86 on PP after my departure. It seems he has done very well for himself. I have actually sent him a pm b/c frankly I'm looking for some help with some stuff. Particularly how to adjust to the 100xBB max buy-in which really hurt my game, and I never took the time to readjust. A couple of months after the switch on Party Poker, I just left and went into hibernation, Obi Wan Kenobi style. It seems ilikeaces at first also had some trouble with the switch but recovered so I was hoping he could give me some pointers.

There is something that perhaps the forum can help me with...How is FullTilt and PokerStars legal? I thought Bush passed a law making it illegal. That really deterred me from playing, but then I found out there were still some poker sites online. At first I thought it was probably only foreign players playing or people with bank accts outside US. So let me ask, how can US players still play poker online, and it not be illegal????

Thanks for your help guys. Post responses here or pm me if you have questions/comments.
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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 10:16pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

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Yo,

Pretty much the bill that passed did nothing besides make the games a hell of a lot tougher. The UIGEA only was made to prevent financial institutions from knowingly funding internet gambling sites. Fortunately, its impossible for them to track every check, and e-checks has become a deposit method for many. If you look in the poker news section here, you'll see an article about how congress is going to reevaluate the bill because it has seemingly done nothing.
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meeloche
Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 10:29pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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wait so are they gonna change it to make it illegal to play or we're good to go ship the dough?
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ilikeaces86
Post Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 1:04am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Just thought I would stop by say hi and onto the hand I fold usually....withought history.
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Marshall28
Post Posted: Sat, 05 Apr 2008, 6:07am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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IowaSkinsFan wrote:
gabe wrote:
its so easy to bluff 2/3 pot bets on flops like that


I'm interested on complete reasoning on this, as I don't grasp exactly why a smaller bet here is easier to bluff.


its mad easy to bluff cuz what hands are you bet/calling on the flop that you are checking on the turn? its like gabe said ... it's really easy for him to bluff here, or value bet you thinly since he has position, and he can control the size of the pot since he took the initiative on the flop.

against a player like this if im tangling i like to just put the 3rd bet in on the flop and hope to get him to try to jam w/ a merging weaker pair or jam w/ a pure bluff since my line looks fishy.

what can u really do, u can check call the turn again, but it's 100% guessing game on the river if he fires again, and just calling to hope he shuts down i know u know is inherently bad too.
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