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Posted: Wed, 28 Oct 2009, 12:08am Post subject: 25NL 3barrel bluff in a 3bet pot
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Straight

Joined: 15 Jul 2008
Posts: 148 WPP: 75
Location: Michigan
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1 Not sure if this should go in HU or if it doesn't matter because its 25nl. I started up this table at 25nl FR and have been playing with villian for a bit. He has been raising pretty much all his buttons and I figured it was a good time to see how he reacts to a 3bet. I have played with him before and he is a 25/12 with a low fold to cbet over 400 hands. Is this a good 3barrel? I cbet the flop planning to barrel alot of turn cards. The river I thought he may have been on a FD but most of his range is medium pp.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB ($58.90)
Hero (BB) ($50.78)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 , A
SB bets $0.65, Hero raises $2.50, SB calls $2
Flop: ($5.50) 6 , 3 , 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $4, SB calls $4
Turn: ($13.50) 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $10, SB calls $10
River: ($33.50) J (2 players)
Hero bets $34.03 (All-In
2 Same villian from previous hand. This is any easy shove right?
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (3 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB ($37.60)
Hero (BB) ($66.40)
Button ($29.17)
Preflop: Hero is BB with J , J
Button calls $0.25, [color=#CC3333]SB bets $0.90, Hero raises $3.25, 1 fold, SB raises $10.50, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises $62.90 (All-In |
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Posted: Wed, 28 Oct 2009, 8:30pm Post subject:
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Two Pair

Joined: 04 Sep 2008
Posts: 33 WPP: 100
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| I'm confused by what you're saying and your hh. You talked about him always opening from bb but hero is bb? If there hero is bb here and there are checks in front of those bets I think his c/c means he is drawing to the flush so a river shove after it hits is spewy. If your sb like i think you were talking about i like the pf 3bet and the flop c bet. Your reping a big pair that blank on the turn deserves another bet but once that gets called you have to believe he has a big pair beat. I think the second bullet is good if he was floating you or had middle pp's like you thought but the turn call says to me he either has a set or the straight and isn't too scared. Even if he is scared of the flush, you haven't been playing the hand like a fd at all so that won't get much credit. |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 5:03pm Post subject:
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One Pair

Joined: 03 Nov 2009
Posts: 18 WPP: 116
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| eternal wrote: | | Even if he is scared of the flush, you haven't been playing the hand like a fd at all so that won't get much credit. |
+1 - QFT.
When pulling a bluff, you always, ALWAYS have to ask the question whether your bluff looks believable if you were in your opponent's shoes. And you have to be honest with yourself here. |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 5:23pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 7005 WPP: 71
Location: Pwnsylvania
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| are you guys serious, how else would you suggest playing a FD in a 3bet pot HU? |
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Posted: Fri, 06 Nov 2009, 6:57pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 26 Feb 2009
Posts: 805 WPP: 132
Location: Slowrollin' in the $0.10 DONs 'cause that's what all the cool people on TV do
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if you're gonna go for a triple barrel here, lower bet sizing could really behoove you here. sure, you would never bet 3 into 5.50 on this flop for value, but he's a 25/12 so he doesn't know this, so so long as he's not aggressive enough for a lower bet sizing to notably increase his chances of bluff raising. you actually WANT his calling range to be wider when you're going for a double barrel because it increases your turn bluff's success rate.
if you're betting goes 3 into 5.50, 7 into 11.50 and 15 into 25.50, your bluff now needs to work half as often for it to be profitable.
ALLLL that being said, i can't say the Jc is a great card to barrel. you say that his range is mostly medium pp's, and that just tells me that you haven't thought much through ranges here (in other words, you just told us that 77,88 and 99 make up the majority of his range). |
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Posted: Fri, 06 Nov 2009, 8:58pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 5681 WPP: 126
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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| altruist wrote: | | eternal wrote: | | Even if he is scared of the flush, you haven't been playing the hand like a fd at all so that won't get much credit. |
+1 - QFT.
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Wtf are you two on about???
Give hero A K and ask how he'd play it. |
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Posted: Fri, 06 Nov 2009, 10:06pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 25 Sep 2005
Posts: 3545 WPP: 101
Location: The Grind
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Might want to mention where the stats are from. Additionally, the first hand is exactly how you'd play a flush draw most of the time, unless you check turn which is probably stupid. |
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Posted: Sat, 07 Nov 2009, 12:30pm Post subject:
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Straight

Joined: 15 Jul 2008
Posts: 148 WPP: 75
Location: Michigan
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The stats are from FR, and yeah I would play a flush draw the same way. I 2 barrel alot and don't do much 3bareling, but I thought this river was a good river to do so. Just wanted to see if everyone else agreed. Thanks.
Hand 1: He folded
Hand 2: He called with AA and I flopped a J {acronym Renton hates} |
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