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d0zer
Post Posted: Thu, 14 Aug 2008, 5:23pm    Post subject: 200NL: seta jacks vs shorty maniac on turrrrrrrible board Reply with quote
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v 70/30 over 30.

Anyone think I'm ahead enough here to justify a river call?

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MP2 ($223.40)
MP3 ($45.65)
CO ($89.25)
Button ($209.35)
SB ($133.70)
BB ($98.85)
UTG ($266.45)
Hero ($225.90)
MP1 ($200)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, J.
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, CO calls $8, 3 folds.

Flop: ($19) A, J, Q (2 players)
Hero bets $14, CO calls $14.

Turn: ($47) T (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $14, Hero calls $14.

River: ($75) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $53.25 (All-In), Hero ...
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Fnord
Post Posted: Thu, 14 Aug 2008, 5:37pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Easy call
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spoonitnow
Post Posted: Thu, 14 Aug 2008, 7:20pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Fnord wrote:
Easy call

I agree with Fnord on this one.
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d0zer
Post Posted: Thu, 14 Aug 2008, 7:49pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yeah it didn't take me long to call.

I've been making a bunch of bad calls lately so...yeah...coolers still fuck with my mind etc... blah blah ignore me.

THREAD FIN
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Deanglow
Post Posted: Thu, 14 Aug 2008, 7:53pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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ummm i don't think this is an easy call and would probably fold river
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d0zer
Post Posted: Thu, 14 Aug 2008, 8:18pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Deanglow wrote:
ummm i don't think this is an easy call and would probably fold river


I suspected we'd have a dissenting voice. Perhaps my thread termination request was a little hasty?

We're getting decent odds and there's lots of 2pr/top pair hands in villain's range, not to mention bluffs. If the river comes a 2-7 does that change your mind?
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Post Posted: Thu, 14 Aug 2008, 8:56pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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do you have any postflop reads? seems like a fold since he wont need to bluff with much of his range.
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Post Posted: Thu, 14 Aug 2008, 10:14pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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<~~~~ this nitty bot folds
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Deanglow
Post Posted: Thu, 14 Aug 2008, 10:32pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The majority of his range on the flop is pair+SD (ie a king) and everything else would most likely check through with its showdown value. I need a special read more than a 30 hand sample to call
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reprisal
Post Posted: Fri, 15 Aug 2008, 12:18am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Small bet, Big bet seems to be strong a lot of the time. No post flop reads yet? Should have a good idea just how stupid this guy is after 30 hands which will make it easy to decide.
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reDZill4
Post Posted: Fri, 15 Aug 2008, 12:58am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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i think this is a pretty terrible call. k/9 > JJ.
i feel like if you thought u were ahead here enough you should have just got it in on the turn.
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