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thizzSantaCruz
Post Posted: Tue, 13 May 2008, 9:19pm    Post subject: 150bb deep and AK Reply with quote
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Villain is sLAG 26/21/3. We have 3 bet each other a couple times and he showed down Q9s in one a 3 bet pot oop. 150bb deep 100nl. No one has 4 bet yet.

Villain raises to 3.5 in cut off.
I 3 bet AK to 12 on the button.
Villain raises to 26.

Do we
a) 5 bet shove?
b) call and raise a lot of flops AI?
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thizzSantaCruz
Post Posted: Tue, 13 May 2008, 10:11pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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C) call pf instead of 3 betting
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meeloche
Post Posted: Tue, 13 May 2008, 10:32pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I just get it here pre flop as my standard play vs this type of player.
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Fnord
Post Posted: Tue, 13 May 2008, 10:34pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Call because we have position and I think there is too much behind to shove.
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Deanglow
Post Posted: Tue, 13 May 2008, 11:20pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Certainly call and take a flop. I think he gives up a lot on the flop too.
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tarath
Post Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 2:16am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I shove. I think you have bad reverse implied odds vs his 4bet range. Getting paid off on A high or K high flops will generally be hard and when you miss hes never folding JJ/QQ.
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Fnord
Post Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 2:22am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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tarath wrote:
Getting paid off on A high or K high flops will generally be hard


Not given how little money is behind since he's always betting these flops.
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tarath
Post Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 2:27am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Fnord wrote:
tarath wrote:
Getting paid off on A high or K high flops will generally be hard


Not given how little money is behind since he's always betting these flops.


Theres still 125BB behind. Best case he bet folds 40BB on the 32% of flops that hit us with QQ/JJ. Then we get stacked 100% by AA on K high flops and 100% when he hits a set w AA/KK, and we get outplayed when he has AK a lot because he has the betting lead.

Think of it from villians point of view. Your 4bet gets called, you have QQ, flop comes A62. You bet and get raised or called. Are you putting another penny in this pot?
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