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Posted: Tue, 02 Dec 2008, 4:27am Post subject: $11 ICM Spot
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Flush

Joined: 04 May 2006
Posts: 535 WPP: 121
Location: Fold City
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Easy shove or easy fold?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 10+1 Tournament, 120/240 Blinds (4 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button (t4435)
SB (t4280)
Hero (BB) (t1875)
UTG (t2910)
Hero's M: 5.21
Preflop: Hero is BB with K , Q
2 folds, SB raises to t480, Hero ?? |
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Posted: Tue, 02 Dec 2008, 4:35am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 09 Aug 2005
Posts: 1672 WPP: 66
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Posted: Tue, 02 Dec 2008, 5:06am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 9161 WPP: 128
Location: Sydney
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| Very read dependent on SB has been playing. If opp has been open minraising your BB very often or has otherwise been aggressive then I shove back. If he/she has been tight then it's an easy fold. |
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Posted: Tue, 02 Dec 2008, 5:40am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 1597 WPP: 131
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| without a read, your way ahead of average SB raising range into short stack here so it's a push. If you read the guy as tight and/or clever then I'm worried and it's a fold. I.e. if he's clever he knows you shove back wide, so he'd only minraise with the goods. |
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Posted: Tue, 02 Dec 2008, 5:49am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 9161 WPP: 128
Location: Sydney
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| gingerwizard wrote: | | without a read, your way ahead of average SB raising range into short stack here so it's a push. If you read the guy as tight and/or clever then I'm worried and it's a fold. I.e. if he's clever he knows you shove back wide, so he'd only minraise with the goods. |
You know this already, but ranges need to take into account the ICM effect as well as plain ol' chip EV... |
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