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szamvan
Post Posted: Thu, 24 Jan 2008, 12:21pm    Post subject: 10$ husng - disguasting spot @ river Reply with quote
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (2 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero (t1500)
Button (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, J.
Button calls t10, Hero raises to t60, Button calls t40.

Flop: (t120) 3, T, 9 (2 players)
Hero bets t80, Button calls t80.

Turn: (t280) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets t225, Button calls t225.

River: (t730) Q (2 players)
Hero bets t400, Button raises to t1000, Hero calls t600.

Final Pot: t2730
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Post Posted: Thu, 24 Jan 2008, 1:31pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I usually check QJ first hand against a total unknown. I probably also check turn but leading isn't bad. On river it is pretty sick but I'd rather c/c or b/f... I just don't see what you beat unless he missed spades and I don't think a standard $10 donkey would raise a missed draw too much here.
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szamvan
Post Posted: Thu, 24 Jan 2008, 3:28pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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So you would fold after that raise getting 3:8 pot odds?
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or maybe my bet-sizing is bad at the river?
I think that I beat a lot of things in his range, ppl go broke with second pair and such things a lot at this level. and also he might think that I am bluffing the overcard.
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Post Posted: Thu, 24 Jan 2008, 4:31pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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yeah they do but they usually just call down with them, not raise on the river
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Post Posted: Thu, 24 Jan 2008, 4:42pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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yeah I was just trying to reason for betting out and not check/calling.
I feel that I really lack the discipline to fold in this spot provided that this is the right play. I just cant resist these pot odds.
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Post Posted: Thu, 24 Jan 2008, 6:19pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Calling here isnt bad. Bloating the pot on 3 streets isnt such a great plan though.
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Post Posted: Thu, 24 Jan 2008, 6:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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By the way this was not the first hand its something like 10 or 15th and he called all my c-bets but folded to second barrels (u can probably imagine the huge sample from which I was able to conclude these statements, but hey its probably pretty standard to not have a super-read at turbo HUSNGs), thats why I fired on the turn.
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Post Posted: Thu, 24 Jan 2008, 6:32pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Check turn, get your chips on if you hit on the river. Dont use the same line all the time. If you've been 2 barrelling him a lot (and more than twice in 15 hands would be a lot), then he's correct to let you hang yourself here if he has a solid hand.
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Post Posted: Fri, 25 Jan 2008, 9:04am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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yeah but I suspect he was floating me, so I would have to pay approximately the same amount to chase my draw only without the fold equity if I checked the turn.
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