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Alexos
Post Posted: Tue, 04 Dec 2007, 5:26pm    Post subject: Alexos' Adventures in Donkland Reply with quote
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Yeh yeh, I've been thinking of doing this for a while, and I think the time is appropriate now. I've been on my worst downswing ever recently (like everyone else except Zook, ya?), having dropped about 33% of my roll (40k downswing, but dont worry ive recovered some:P) at a certain point. I took a break and traveled to Australia for a month, followed by a week in St-Kitts for the Carribean Poker Tourney which was a blast. Now I'm back and I really want to work on my game and turn things around.

My main game has been 6-10 tabling 500nl, and I've been playing/running great over a significant sample size. But as soon as I move up to 5/10 I've just getting destroyed, and im not even kidding you (Stats at bottom of this post). I'm definitly not playing scared money since I'm always decently rolled and have come to the point that losing 5k pots doesnt really bother me that much? I think that is part of the problem, sometimes I just spew so horribly and make utterly dumb plays at lower limits because "I already lost a 10k pot, so 500-1k$ is nothing" which is stupid. Anyways...

My goal are the following:
-Talk more about poker with buddies..I'm probably the guy that talks to least poker through IM's, even though I have plenty of resources available.
-Do sweat reviews or vids/get coaching/coach someone
-Get better at note taking (notes have done me more harm than good)
-PLAY more hands, I want to get in 50k hands/month w/out going over 8tables
-Stop when I feel tilty/Never play tired
-Table select..I dont need to sit with the regs, at least not until my game is back on track
-My monetary goal remains at 20k/month incl. RB + Bonus

Oh, and in case you were wondering, I used the word Donk in the title not only because I want to play vs them and profit, but because I am a donk myself sometimes (often). This thread will be used to post my donkish plays of the day, and hopefully entertain a few of you.

These are most of my hands at those limits:


I withdrew a bunch and I'm left with a 8.4k BR, but I'll still play both 200nl and 500nl for now. Here we go!
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Post Posted: Tue, 04 Dec 2007, 5:32pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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oops I just realized Jager's thread has the same name haha...guess ill change it, knew it sounded familiar!!!

edit: wtv, im keeping it..its not his operation and also in a diff. forum. Unless he sues me for copyright infringement..
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Post Posted: Tue, 04 Dec 2007, 5:46pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I guess I could coach you. I'm pretty expensive though.

GLGLGLGL
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Post Posted: Tue, 04 Dec 2007, 6:15pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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kick ass and take names, alexos!
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Post Posted: Tue, 04 Dec 2007, 8:18pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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You are really beating up the 500NL games for being a fairly heavy multitabler - very impressive!

good luck w/ 1kNL!!!
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Post Posted: Tue, 04 Dec 2007, 8:27pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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wait that's bb/100 and not ptbb right?

otherwise that's fucking sick at 500nl
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Post Posted: Tue, 04 Dec 2007, 9:01pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I decided to create a new PT database for the operation, as the old one was lagging badly anyways. I played a mini-session, saw some donks with double stacks at a table and we played 3-handed for a while. Here are the highlights:

1st three hands are almost back to back.

1) Standard
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Stack sizes:
Button: $763.31
SB: $1121.50
Alexos: $500

Pre-flop: (3 players) Alexos is BB with Seven of Hearts Seven of Spades
Button raises to $20, SB calls, Alexos calls.

Flop: Nine of Hearts Two of Spades Three of Hearts ($60, 3 players)
SB checks, Alexos checks, Button bets $40, SB folds, Alexos calls.

Turn: Nine of Clubs ($140, 2 players)
Alexos checks, Button checks.

River: Four of Hearts ($140, 2 players)
Alexos checks, Button checks.

Results:
Final pot: $140
Alexos shows 7h 7s
Button mucks Ah 3s


2)Here I figured he saw me call with 77 the hand before and check it down, so he would figure i'd fold to double barrels. On the river I just didnt think he'd value bet Jx this strongly, and he fired pretty quickly. I'm a station.

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Stack sizes:
Button: $732.56
SB: $1080.80
Alexos: $563

Pre-flop: (3 players) Alexos is BB with Six of Diamonds Six of Clubs
Button raises to $20, SB folds, Alexos calls.

Flop: Five of Hearts Four of Diamonds Two of Spades ($42, 2 players)
Alexos checks, Button bets $30, Alexos calls.

Turn: Jack of Spades ($102, 2 players)
Alexos checks, Button bets $75, Alexos calls.

River: King of Clubs ($252, 2 players)
Alexos checks, Button bets $185, Alexos calls.

Results:

He has A7o


3)I got TP, stackadonk! I got berated for the 66 call obviously, so I figured he could call with worse here
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Stack sizes:
Button: $422.56
SB: $1080.80
Alexos: $871

Pre-flop: (3 players) Alexos is BB with Queen of Clubs King of Hearts
Button raises to $20, SB calls, Alexos calls.

Flop: Queen of Diamonds Eight of Spades Jack of Clubs ($60, 3 players)
SB checks, Alexos checks, Button bets $45, SB folds, Alexos raises to $165, Button raises all-in $402.56, Alexos calls.

Turn: Three of Diamonds ($865.12, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $865.12)


River: Queen of Hearts ($865.12, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $865.12)


Results:
Final pot: $865.12
Button shows Tc Kc
Alexos shows Qc Kh

4) Villain is a 24/15 reg. It was pretty clear he has an overpair here i think. How is the betsizing, I thought maybe I should make it 200 on river instead.

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $665.50
Alexos: $500
Button: $125.90
SB: $622.75
BB: $613.25

Pre-flop: (5 players) Alexos is CO with Ten of Clubs Ten of Hearts
UTG raises to $20, Alexos calls, 3 folds.

Flop: Seven of Clubs Eight of Hearts Five of Hearts ($47, 2 players)
UTG bets $40, Alexos calls.

Turn: Six of Spades ($127, 2 players)
UTG checks, Alexos bets $85, UTG calls.

River: Queen of Diamonds ($297, 2 players)
UTG checks, Alexos bets $165

5) Me getting owned. He was definitly bad, but this was the 1st time he 3bet pre. I should fold pre, but I woulda made a move on many flops, and he was so bad I couldnt resist.

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Stack sizes:
Alexos: $498
CO: $514
Button: $386
SB: $208.40
BB: $584.90

Pre-flop: (5 players) Alexos is UTG with Nine of Diamonds Jack of Diamonds
Alexos raises to $20, 3 folds, BB raises to $70, Alexos calls.

Flop: Six of Spades Eight of Spades Nine of Hearts ($142, 2 players)
BB bets $95, Alexos raises to $225, BB raises all-in $514.9, Alexos calls all-in $203.
Uncalled bets: $86.9 returned to BB.

Turn: Three of Spades ($998, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $998)


River: Ace of Spades ($998, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $998)


Results:
Final pot: $998


6) Very tricky spot. The initial raiser is a laggy reg, kinda spewy. Against this guy I probably RR AK only 50% here, I know he calls my 3bets like always but is a good hand reader. The shortstack was mad aggro and terrible so I prolly flat AK 80% of the time in this situation. His RR to isolate shorty can mean anything from AJ to something like 88, maybe worse, since he knows SS is bad. I think it's an easy push vs this guy, against others I could fold this.

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $71.28
UTG+1: $142.85
CO: $309.05
Alexos: $197
SB: $255.75
BB: $97.25

Pre-flop: (6 players) Alexos is Button with Ace of Diamonds King of Spades
2 folds, CO raises to $6, Alexos calls, SB folds, BB raises to $28, CO raises to $56, Alexos raises all-in $197

Lucky start, BR = $10,242
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Alexos
Post Posted: Tue, 04 Dec 2007, 9:06pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Wow, yeah sorry these numbers are all bb/100 for some reason PT fucked up as I always look at ptbb normally...hmm, sorry all, no im not that good!!!!Razz

future #'s will all be Ptbb
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Post Posted: Tue, 04 Dec 2007, 9:08pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
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1. I bet river pretty much always
2. nice, this is a spot where unless the guy is vbetting thin you're going to own him. If he insta bets the river snap it. Timing is very important here.
3. I threebet here almost always, as played on the flop I lead. C/r overreps your hand a ton.
4. This is just pretty dependent on how you feel about opp.
5. I don't normally see a cbet with air here. there are a lot of slow down cards so i just take my SD value and call the flop.
6. I'd reraise AK here much more often than 50% of the time, especially given description of opp. As played yeah get it in.
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Post Posted: Tue, 04 Dec 2007, 9:37pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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ISF:

1) What worse hands do you expect him to call with when we bet river?

3)I 3bet as well, but I just won 2 big pots off of him and didnt want to play OOP but still felt my hand has good value and a good kicker. Very good point about the c/r, I should def lead. Although I still dont mind getting in it he was def tilty.

5)It's just that I hate calling with marginal hands on super drawy flops, there are so many bad cards for me. The only good thing we have is position. This might be a leak of mine right here.

6)Against a decent laggy player I prefer to keep the pot small with a drawy hand...this guy will never 4bet crap, and pretty much always calls cbets. With the aggro donk behind me I still prefer flat calling against that guy. edit: basically i thought it was a good time to mix it up
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Post Posted: Wed, 05 Dec 2007, 6:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I played 2k hands today and I won 2.5k, playing 1/3 500nl 2/3 200nl...I played 3.5 hrs and im pretty much burned. I really don't understand how some people play 8hrs+/day Shocked

Interesting hands of the day:

1) Scandies are such big bluffers, I swear I need to let them bluff more often I miss so much value:) Hey Halv!

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $709.31
UTG+1: $438
Alexos: $763
Button: $1089.80
SB: $449
BB: $640.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) Alexos is CO with Ace of Clubs Queen of Clubs
2 folds, Alexos raises to $20, Button raises to $70, 2 folds, Alexos calls.

Flop: King of Clubs Queen of Diamonds Five of Hearts ($147, 2 players)
Alexos checks, Button bets $100, Alexos calls.

Turn: Six of Hearts ($347, 2 players)
Alexos checks, Button bets $220, Alexos calls.

River: Five of Diamonds ($787, 2 players)
Alexos checks, Button checks.

Results:
Final pot: $787
Alexos shows Ac Qc
Button mucks 8s Ts

2) Big pot, coolerville

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $96
UTG+1: $63.90
CO: $531
Hero: $200
SB: $83.60
BB: $270.88

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Ace of Hearts Ace of Diamonds
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $6, CO raises to $21, Hero calls, SB raises all-in $83.6, 2 folds, CO raises all-in $531, Hero calls all-in $179.
Uncalled bets: $331 returned to CO.

Flop: Five of Diamonds Two of Spades Queen of Diamonds ($-176, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $258.8, Sidepot 1: $73.6)


Turn: Eight of Hearts ($-176, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $258.8, Sidepot 1: $73.6)


River: Six of Spades ($-176, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $258.8, Sidepot 1: $73.6)


Results
: SB had KK, CO had AKs
Final pot: $-176

3)Villain was 3betting me pretty much every single time I was opening. My small 4bet was to induce a shove, I would of obviously snapcalled. As played is this ok?

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $434
Hero: $1018.15
CO: $562.65
Button: $1890.70
SB: $111.70
BB: $573

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with Ten of Clubs Ten of Spades
UTG folds, Hero raises to $20, CO raises to $58, 3 folds, Hero raises to $155, CO calls.

Flop: Five of Hearts Jack of Clubs Three of Clubs ($317, 2 players)
Hero bets $175, CO calls.

Turn: Seven of Diamonds ($667, 2 players)
Hero is all-in $708.15.

4) Villain runs 21/16/4 and is a solid reg. He always views me as a solid reg..im never sure what to do in these spots against decent opponents.

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $629.50
CO: $402.90
Button: $544.30
Hero: $478
BB: $187.05

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with Jack of Diamonds Jack of Clubs
2 folds, Button raises to $17, Hero raises to $50, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: Eight of Diamonds Eight of Spades Ten of Diamonds ($105, 2 players)
Hero bets $85, Button raises all-in $494.3 ???????.

Hopefully I'll play some more later, InterPoker has a nice rake race for december on top of all the other crazy bonuses. peeace!
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Post Posted: Wed, 05 Dec 2007, 9:28pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Goddamn, someone still plays at Crypto, Poker's equivalent of a rock garden!?

Here my 2 cents worth:

Hand 1: I am surprised button didn't push the river. Unless you have been known to him to check/call with TPTK his bluffing was bad IMHO. Would you have called a river push?

Hand 2: Is that sexy coldcalling here with AA in position? Or was SB a push happy shortstack? But I understand you not wanting to blow CO out of the pot.

Hand 3: TT is right on the edge to take a stance here. If I push this turn is dependent on what my image is here. If you have been playing weakish against his 3-bets I like your line.

Hand 4: If its the first time you have been tangling against this regular in a big pot then I would lean towards a fold. However, isn't your 3-bet a little bit on the small side? OOP I like to make my 3-bets closer to 4x opening raise.
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Alexos
Post Posted: Wed, 05 Dec 2007, 10:02pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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silu73 wrote:
Goddamn, someone still plays at Crypto, Poker's equivalent of a rock garden!?

Here my 2 cents worth:

Hand 1: I am surprised button didn't push the river. Unless you have been known to him to check/call with TPTK his bluffing was bad IMHO. Would you have called a river push?

I called pf since I had raised the last few hands vs him, and knew he would eventually come back at me the next time I did it. I was pretty sure I had the best hand and could possibly have him dominated. Flop came good for as only AK/AA beat me and not too drawy either. I was intending to call a river bet as well.

Hand 2: Is that sexy coldcalling here with AA in position? Or was SB a push happy shortstack? But I understand you not wanting to blow CO out of the pot.

I think its fine if the 3better is known as a tight guy. If he's laggy you can definitly 4bet this hand more often, but in general it often means QQ+/AK. And yes it is sexy.


Hand 3: TT is right on the edge to take a stance here. If I push this turn is dependent on what my image is here. If you have been playing weakish against his 3-bets I like your line.

I like my line pf and flop. On turn I regret pushing here, this guy will never fold a J or better here, and if I just check he'll surely check behind 88 and 99. I dont see what else he could have here other than 88-99-Jx or set...c/f turn (not results oriented)


Hand 4: If its the first time you have been tangling against this regular in a big pot then I would lean towards a fold. However, isn't your 3-bet a little bit on the small side? OOP I like to make my 3-bets closer to 4x opening raise.


[b]You're right I should of made it bigger, I usually make it 50$ for 15$ raises, 55-60 for 17-18$ raises and 65 for 20$ raise.


your comments are appreciated thx[/b]
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I suck, you know this, so take it for what its worth:

1. I think this is good and the best line. He could show up with a K here but meh you have showdown value.
2. Fold preflop =)
3. I like pre. Flop looks good. With his stack and the pot size I think turn is ok but I think he has a J here a lot. You only really get called by 88 or 99 that you beat and I don't think they do this much. I guess c/f but what about c/c to induce more air?
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Post Posted: Thu, 06 Dec 2007, 12:15am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Holy fuck. I'm so tilted right now, I just dropped about 3k in 15 minutes, putting me at -500 for the day. The tables were insane, with 4 tables running and 3-4 deepstacked fish on each tables running over 50VPIP....Paradise, right?


Nope...As it turns out I lost a 3.5k pot (700BB) with a FH vs quads against a guy running 67/13. In another hand I pushed with QQ on a 2234 board to rep a bluff and go instasnapcalled from a donk with AK, I shoved pot (330$). WTF!!

I'll post some hands tomorrow as im on life tilt now. Nite.
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
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Alexos wrote:
ISF:
5)It's just that I hate calling with marginal hands on super drawy flops, there are so many bad cards for me. The only good thing we have is position. This might be a leak of mine right here.


I think your looking at this hand from a very poor perspective. Stop thinking about bad cards for your hand for a second. There are too many turn cards that are great to bluff on, there are too many turn cards that allow you to suck out because they force him to slow down, our range can hit much harder on the turn and river than his, and you are playing for stacks with the worst hand 90% of the time.
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Post Posted: Sat, 08 Dec 2007, 2:18am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I played a shittton the last 2 days, I cant even believe it. I moved my laptop to my room where I can fully concentrate, and it seems to be working as im focusing a lot more even if im multitabling heavily.

Here are the results of the past 2 days...I think