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AKo in BB, Button and SB both shove ($27)

  
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taipan168
Post Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 6:32am    Post subject: AKo in BB, Button and SB both shove ($27) Reply with quote
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Button's stats were 43/11 over 35 and SB's were 6/3 over 70. Button should be shoving pretty wide and SB might be shoving over to isolate. What's your move?

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Button (t1045)
SB (t1790)
Hero (t1795)
UTG (t2940)
MP1 (t1620)
MP2 (t1225)
CO (t3085)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K.
4 folds, Button raises to t1045, SB raises to t1790, Hero ????
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Post Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 7:26am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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looking at the SB's stats, I say fold, but that feels nitty.... I put button on Ax, any two broadway, 44/66+, and SB on 88+ AJ+. I don't have an ICM program, so I can't run this through anywhere, but I think I fold, kick a small child, and steal a puppy from my neighbor.
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Post Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 7:40am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Given how tight SB is I think I fold here, I call with QQ-AA
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Post Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 9:05am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I think this is a push(call), and my gut feeling is that it really isn't as borderline as it feels. SB's stack is not that far ahead of the blinds, he is probably aware of Buttons range (large range). Yes, this is AA/KK sometimes, but I don't think AA/KK is any more likely in this particular situation than most other pre flop spots with AK.
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Post Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 9:10am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I think he could do this with a few worse As, I would go ahead and gamble but I don't think it's a big mistake either way, you're 30-40 % getting 2/1.
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Post Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 9:35am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I think this could go either way, depending on how often the rest of the table has been opening and how often they will fold to your shoves in the future. If button is able to limp/fold often (as his stats suggests), then I find another argument for folding: not only will SB (who is definitely going to survive) open relatively few pots (based on his stats), but if BU survives he will throw some extra dead money in for you later as well.
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Post Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 4:08am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Gamble, with a t150bb and 7 players remaining you're going to have to gamble soon anyway and you're unlikey to find a better spot.

My stupid cash player call range here would be at least AQs/AK/TT+
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