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Posted: Tue, 27 May 2008, 7:21pm Post subject: 5/10 couple of spots |
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Straight
Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 229
WPP: 416
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Villain is standard TAG 18/15ish, He used to play a lot a couple of years ago, but this is the first time I have seen him for about a year so not sure how much attention ot pay to those stats...I've played about 3 orbits with him and have been pretty aggressive, 3 hands ago I called his 3 bet and C/F flop.
$5/$10 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
Hero ($3641.00)
BTN ($1501.25)
SB ($1025.00)
BB ($1000.00)
Pre-flop: ($15, 4 players) Hero is CO  
Hero raises to $35, BTN raises to $110, 2 folds, Hero raises to $275, BTN calls $130
Flop:    ($530, 2 players)
Hero bets $200, BTN calls $200
Turn:  ($930, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks
River:  ($930, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $600, Hero calls $600
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This hand isn't really a particlarly tough 'spot' but just an unorthodox way to play it and was looking for some feedback.
Original raiser is very ABC TAG playing a very ABC style. Shorty who pushes is typical shorty any pair/ace/2 broadway, limp then cold caller I have no info on as it's the first time I've played with said player and I'd imagine it's also the last judging by how he played this hand.
$5/$10 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($607.00)
UTG 1 ($1824.00)
CO ($1945.00)
Hero ($1947.50)
SB ($1005.00)
BB ($130.00)
Pre-flop: ($15, 6 players) Hero is BTN  
UTG calls $10, UTG 1 raises to $45, CO calls $45, Hero calls $45, 1 fold, BB goes all-in $120, UTG calls $120, UTG 1 calls $85, CO calls $85, Hero raises to $445, UTG goes all-in $477, UTG 1 folds, CO folds, Hero calls $207
Flop:    ($1654, 3 players)
Turn: ($1654, 3 players)
River:  ($1654, 3 players)
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Posted: Tue, 27 May 2008, 7:49pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 05 Jan 2005
Posts: 1703
WPP: 148
Location: Kansas
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I don't play these stakes.....but bet more on the flop on hand one for sure. As played the river is a fold more often than a call and is never a raise obviously. Generally I would say it's a definite fold but you played the flop so weird that maybe he thinks his hand is good and/or a bluff is in order...
Hand two is lol, sucks to get into these spots and I'm sure it hardly ever happens.....high variance, hope it turned out okay instead of a train wreck. |
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Posted: Tue, 27 May 2008, 8:26pm Post subject: |
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One Pair
Joined: 12 Mar 2007
Posts: 589
WPP: 108
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Hand 1. I would bet just slightly more preflop since you are deep and OOP, but if you want to balance and keep your 4-bets small, then that's fine. The cbet really confuses me, to me this seems like the perfect spot for a normal sized cbet. The small cbet might induce a float, which is perhaps what you are trying to accomplish? The turn obviously ruins that plan.
I'm not so happy about the c/c either. The only hands that you beat seem to be TT/JJ/KQ/QJ and I don't think those will usually bet the river. You are loosing to AQ/QQ/AA/77/99/ and all of those will bet the river. You might have induced a bluff by your small cbet, but I'm still folding here.
Hand 2. The action seems a bit messed up (the last call at least). I would prefer to call, but I think a raise is good too because of all the dead money. |
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Posted: Tue, 27 May 2008, 8:30pm Post subject: |
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
Posts: 17618
WPP: 82
Location: Walk the Walk, Flop the Flop.
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Hand 1 The flop is almost a case of getting what you asked for. You really didn't price AK out and now have a difficult turn decision. Also leaving so much money behind on the turn is kinda yuck from a hand planning perspective.
Hand 2 is pretty standard for me. It's not uncommon for a short-buy to shove Ax/22+/KQish stuff setting up some really funny spots where you pretty much need to call/push stuff like AQ/AK/JJ/TT to push out weak hands and get it in against similar sorts of ranges. |
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Posted: Tue, 27 May 2008, 8:39pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 2015
WPP: 99
Location: Toronto'ish
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Hand 1
-weird flop bet sizing, why such a small bet?
-I think if he was bluffing he would probably bet this turn, which makes me feel like he has AQ/QQ on this river. I think c/f is fine on river, or c/c a small bet
Hand 2
-I play it the same pretty often |
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Posted: Wed, 28 May 2008, 12:16pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Posts: 1951
WPP: 54
Location: Dizzy
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the KK one id just be looking to jam in as much money as possible on every street c/folding the A turn if i have 1psb or more behind which we shouldnt if our noggin is on straight
the TT one is fine/good/std |
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Posted: Thu, 29 May 2008, 4:09pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 01 Feb 2007
Posts: 252
WPP: 261
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Hand 1; bet more on flop unless you have a very good reason not to (like reads that he will shove if you bet 200 like you did). As played, c/f river.
Hand 2: standard. |
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